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    Sitat Opprinnelig postet av sirant
    har også lenge kikket på en rpm 9.1, hehe - men fikk også sansen for Michell Gyrodec..

    Har handlet endel innercover på big dipper jeg, men vet ikke hvordan de er i pris iforhold til andre steder - men god kvalitet syns jeg.
    MG har noen meget fine rigger :-D kikker rundt etter innercover, så noen anbefale 100 stk fra usa for 25 dollar, fra sleeve store tror jeg, men de er av ren plast

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    da har jeg bestillt meg en slik vasker fra audioart, en nitty gritty mini pro, som vasker begge sider samtidig


    har bestillt en respektabel bunke med innercover også
    blir noen vaskesjauer fremover for å komme ajour :-D

    ellers nytes tiden med å lytte mye på vinyl om dagen og gamle favoritter
    har jeg fått tak i en del av, som aerosmith,marillion,motorhead,running wild osv osv

    skal vurdere en noe dyrere rigg utover høsten da jeg føler det er mer å hente
    der enda, på tross av at xpression lll absolutt leverer veldig bra
    det blir nok pro-ject igjen slik at jeg kan ta med speedboxen videre
    skal bruke noe tid på å gjøre meg kjent med forskjellige pu også

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    Da er valget tatt, ble en slik en



    en pro-ject RPM 10.1, har da bestillt meg med støvdeksel, hylle, og allign it

    platevasker kom idag så nå er det bare å sette igang :-D

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    oooh, den var lekker Grattis :P

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    Det er den absolutt, men uventet nok så befant den seg ikke på lager hos importør, selv om han mente de skulle ha den , og med 4-6 uker ventetid gikk jeg for en noe dyrere løsning i form av avid diva ll sp m/sme 309 arm, den blir levert og satt opp iløpet av uken, gleder meg sykt til å spille på denne her, en fantastisk spiller og en knallbra arm, det bør den være ihvertfall, armen koster 14 k alene hehe


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    imorgen ankommer avid spilleren, skal jaggu bli spennende å høre hva prishoppet gjør med lyden, ikke rent lite vil jeg tro, pleier å være merkbare forskjeller på rigg når man går oppover kvalitetstigen

    min pro ject spiller er da forøvrig lagt ut til salgs med speedbox ll se til en gunstig pris hvis noen skulle ha ønske om å teste vinyl, det er en knall budsjettspiller, mye for penga

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    fantastisk vinylrigg du har kjøpt deg. Gratulerer det blir en garantert en stor oppgradering. Hvilken pickup har du tenkt å bruke på ny spilleren?

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    fantastisk vinylrigg du har kjøpt deg. Gratulerer det blir en garantert en stor oppgradering. Hvilken pickup har du tenkt å bruke på ny spilleren?

    hvis jeg klarer å holde meg i skinnet idag skal jeg flytte over ortofon 2mblack inntil videre, da vil jeg lettere merke hvor stor oppgraderingen er iom at jeg nå kjenner denne pu litt, deretter er vel planen å kjøpe en dynavector 20x2 high output, men kan hende jeg faller for fristelsen og får spilleren montert med denne ikveld :-D

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    Her er litt bilde av de to nykommerne hjemme





    her er montering av arm og pu igang

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    Noen til, vi brukte ca 3 timer på å montere spiller, arm og pu






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    Fikk en pm angående litt info om spilleren så jeg tok litt fra nettet og legger her i tilfelle flere vil lese litt, alle tester taes jo med en klype salt , men det står nå noe interesange greier her om den synes jeg



    Diva II SP Reviews

    May 2011 Laurent Thorin, Haute Fidélité (FR)

    With this thoroughly revised version of the Diva II, Avid makes an impact by offering an affordable turntable of outstanding performance, capable of doing justice to the best arms and cartridges, as well as less exotic partners.

    The British brand AVID was created in 1996 by Conrad Mas, a mechanical engineer with high fidelity as a hobby. In addition to audio, the company also provides engineering and Avid’s knowledge to companies in the medical field, robotics and defense. Avid turntables have experienced rapid growth, and even the Russian president Dmitry Medvedev, who is known for his passion for high-fidelity, has recently purchased an Acutus Reference SP and Pulsare phono stage!

    Diva II SP is a reworked version of the standard Diva II. It is also twice as expensive. Aesthetically, it is very successful, according to a well-known term that ‘form follows function’. The main chassis is a casting of aluminium with a ribbed profile, comprising the arm board (which is standard cut for SME), the three suspension pods and platter on its bearing. For decoupling from the surface on which they rest, a triple layer of a specific elastomer is used called Sorbothane. The principle of inverted bearing has also been chosen and at the centre of the chassis is a firmly fixed stainless steel spindle with a centred end. Here a tungsten ball is placed. Then a tapered main bearing, with a threaded spindle, rests on the ball with a ruby thrust. Finally, the platter fits precisely on the main bearing. This tapered design eliminates any chance of torsional movement. The platter is made from one piece of aluminium and perfectly balanced. Weighing 6.3 kg, on its upper surface it has a layer of cork that provides the interface to the record. The record clamp is screwed onto the spindle pressing the record to the platter. The large mass of the platter ensures a very low suspension resonance frequency of about 4 Hz.

    The design of the bearing and clamp allows vibrations generated by the stylus to be evacuated quickly: the principle of creating a Mechanical earth. The platter is driven by a 24 volt synchronous motor with high torque. The drive is done using two cylindrical belts, allowing better control the movement of the platter and stability regardless of load. The motor is placed in a heavy cylinder totally independent of the main chassis. Its place is clearly defined by a cut out in the latter. But be careful during assembly, there must be clear space so the two sides do not touch. Within its housing, the motor is duly damped by the heavy material. The speed is tightly controlled by a separate DSP Vari-Speed power supply. The DSP (Digital Signal Processing) power supply allows changes in the speed and the motor enjoys a current source pure and abundant. The owners of the Diva II can upgrade their version to SP through a fixed price package.

    This analogue source sets the bar very high for tonal equilibrium. There is an impressive degree of naturalness. Anything that makes the charm of analog playback is at the rendezvous, that is to say a good sense of matter, a balance fleshy, and a tiny touch of warmth. However, these virtues never become caricatures and are deployed with a keen sense of measure. In short, this is the modern analogue and not a substitute of vintage players. We locate this success primarily to the width of the bandwidth that is characterized by a bass never seen on a turntable for this price. Listening to the trio of Bill Evans recorded live in Montreux in 1968; Eddie Gomez on bass is simply phenomenal. The tension on the strings has superb presence and energy. There is a lot of presence and accuracy in playing the bass. The limited version Kind of Blue, the bass is once again exceptionally deep and control. It is always surprising to rediscover a disc you thought perfectly well after having encountered it hundreds of times. The fluidity of a medium is successful.

    The Avid / Dynavector impose a sense of energy always well controlled. The listening takes place in an atmosphere of tranquility and serenity simply because the dynamic behavior is controlled to the millimeter. The accelerations are straightforward, the judgments are sharp. The breaks are clear, the times too. In short, we can follow the complicated melodic lines with the feeling of not missing a beat. This ease was sticking to the signal gives meaning to listen expressed with clarity of good quality. Whether on a trio or a bigger jazz orchestra, this source is able to offer a deep breath to recorded music.

    The image is large and has excellent holographic qualities. Kind of Blue on the site of the musicians is an accuracy that is often lacking. Not only is the focus of sound sources surprisingly accurate, but each retains its own environment and placing on the panorama with excellent space. The depth of sound is obvious with solid images.

    The Avid-Dynavector combination quickly showed a supreme elegance and revealed every detail and nuance, with a wealth of micro-information, quite amazing at this price level. It allowed a fine analysis of records by completing the most complex to dissect the message never isolate any component.

    VERDICT

    This analog source gave us the most musical performance in all aspects. Of course, it is important to put this into a broader sense. Indeed, the combination of which we have the opportunity to test is a bit unusual and would be rarely assembled. It is indeed unlikely that a customer would choose a tone arm which will be priced higher than the turntable, and use a phono preamp costing 8000 euro and a 1400 euro cartridge. But despite these imbalances the final result was an enthusiasm that the intrinsic value of each link was excellent. And that the turntable, in particular, is remarkable. This also allows us to confirm with confidence that the Diva II SP, along with a less expensive arm (for example a SME 309) and a more affordable preamp, would make a complete analogue source (turntable + arm + cartridge + RIAA preamp) for less than 7000 Euros, particularly capable of excellent performance. For all these reasons, the Diva II SP wholly deserves our Best Buy distinction.

    January 2011 Michael Fremer, Stereophile Magazine (USA)

    I'd evaluated the Diva II turntable from Avid HiFi Ltd and was just about to start writing the review. I didn't know the price, but based on its build quality, and especially its sound, I figured it was about $4500. But when I looked it up on the website of Avid's American importer, Music Direct, I had to call them to make sure the price shown - $1800 - wasn't a mistake. This is going to cause a revolution, I thought.

    It wasn't a mistake, but it turned out I'd made one. I'd been listening to Avid's Diva II SP ($3995), which includes, among other upgrades from the Diva II, a nearly 14-lb machined aluminium platter and, for its 24V AC synchronous motor, a DSP-based voltage-synthesizing outboard power supply that lets you dial in the speed. World order had been restored.

    The Diva II SP resembles other Avid turntables, with which it shares components, including its tungsten-carbide/sapphire ball, inverted stainless-steel bearing, affixed to the hub of a three-legged chassis of cast aluminium. Part of that casting is an integral mount for an SME tonearm machined into the end of a leg that protrudes from midway between two of the support towers (adapters for other arms are available). Instead of spring suspensions found in more expensive models, the Diva II SP and Diva II use a three-layer elastomer system that includes a "tailored Sorbothane compound" incorporated into each of the support legs.

    A mat of soft cork tops the platter. The crown of the inverted spindle bearing protrudes slightly from the platter surface to provide the downforce flex for the screw-on record clamp. The platter is driven via capellini-gauge dual O-rings looped around double grooved pulleys on the platter and motor.

    Avid's ingenious belt-pin system makes it easy to fit the O-rings over the hidden pulleys; Insert a small pin in a hole in the platter's underside, close to its outer perimeter. Fit the belts around the platter pulley and then over the pin, which pulls the O-rings away from the pulley. You then carefully fit the platter over the bearing, placing the pin so that the pulley-aside section bisects the motor pulley. It's then relatively easy to remove the pin and let the O-rings snap into place in the motor pulley's two grooves.

    With the motor all but invisible between two chassis legs, the handsome Diva II SP has a relatively small footprint. Turn on the power supply, push Play, and the platter is up to speed so quickly you'd think it was direct drive.

    Music Direct supplied me with an SME 309 tonearm. I was able to securely bolt it to the Diva in minutes, and set it up almost as easily. I used a USB-connected microscope to set a Lyra Kleos moving coil cartridge's stylus rake angle to 92, and a digital oscilloscope to set azimuth.

    The results of this all-instrumentation, no fiddling, no guesswork setup were spectacular. While sprung 'tables do achieve excellent isolation from outside vibrations, I believe that once you set a platter spinning, no matter how carefully it's machined, it will cause the suspension to move. I much prefer the rock-solid performance of mass-loaded or elastomer-isolated 'tables like the Diva II SP, provided they're placed on a properly tuned isolation stand like the HRS SXR rack and M3 base - which is what I did.

    This $6000 combination was ridiculously good in every aspect of vinyl play. It produced an impressively quite background out of which sprang rock-solid three-dimensional images. The Avid's bass performance was rhythmically nimble, "tuneful," and harmonically expressive. The bottom octaves were taut and impressively well controlled, yet supple and texturally revealing. In my experience, sprung 'tables have trouble keeping up with this level of bottom-octave performance.

    The Diva II SP's overall attack was fast and precise, its sustain reasonably held long, and sounds decayed very, very cleanly into silence. I sat twice through an original UK pressing of Eno's Before and After Science, and found myself concentrating on the precision of the cymbal work, particularly when I played the album at low levels during one play, and on the "tunefulness" of the bass during the next. This 'table dug down deep to deliver foundational rhythmic grooves for which rockers will go absolutely crazy.

    All of the Diva II SP's sins were of omission, and even those were minor. Overall dynamic and spatial scales were somewhat diminished, but the Avid's most significant lack was of a fully fleshed out midrange, which gave it a generally cool, detached sound. While this quality produced less "fleshy" vocals and somewhat undernourished and mildly recessed harmonic palette for strings, reed instruments, and keyboards, it revealed an incredible wealth of genuine low-level detail, particularly in the recording's reverberant field. This somewhat clinical quality can be balanced out with a warmish cartridge or phono preamp.

    However, even in the clinical context of a tonally neutral cartridge and phono preamp, the Diva II SP produced sound so enticing that I listened night and night to all kinds of music, constantly surprised by its high level of performance, and telling myself that if times got tough and I had to sell my big rig, I could listen happily ever after to the Diva II SP. That's how well balanced and robust its overall sound was. My only real complaint was about its coarsely threaded spindle: It was easy to misthread the clamp, especially when I was in a rush to hear the next record.

    While at $3995 the Diva II SP isn't the bargain it would have been at $1800, it's still an incredible value for such a well-designed, well built, superb sounding analogue rig. Combined with the precise-sounding, easy-to-set-up SME 309 tonearm, I'm not sure what's better, or even as good, for $6000.

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    Da har jeg bidratt med litt vinyl greier inne her og begynte jo med mer eller mindre begge beina plantet i surround leieren nesten før den ekstisterte
    nå har jeg halvannet i stereo verdenen, selv om jeg kombinerer begge så er hovedvekt av mine innkjøp og oppgraderinger nå fokusert i stereo verdenen

    kommer tilbake med mer rør og vinyl stoff etterhver, skal handle noe mer 12ax7 / 12at7 varianter utover året

    ikke minst kommer det ett viktig pu valg snart, her er det like viktig å holde tunga rett i munnen å velge rett , da det kommer til å koste tilsvarende ett komplett rørskift på mc2102 og pu er også forbruksvare allså ikke evigvarende i det hele tatt

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    Seriøst oppsett du har fått deg der . Gratulerer med rålekker platespiller .

    Oppsette kan mine litt om det forige mitt med Mcintosh og Klipsch Heritage.

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    Seriøst oppsett du har fått deg der . Gratulerer med rålekker platespiller .

    Oppsette kan mine litt om det forige mitt med Mcintosh og Klipsch Heritage.

    Takker så mye, Ja jeg synes mcintosh og heritage gir noe helt eget, håvar påpekte dette når han monterte oppsettet også, at det var noe orginalt men veldig spennende sammensatt . Høytalerne likte han veldig godt, vi var enige om at det er ett godt valg når lyd er viktigste kriterie og ikke waf :-D :-D

    begynner faktisk å bli veldig godt fornøyd nå på alle måter, er jo ikke perfekt på langt nær, men spiller slik jeg liker og trives med
    tanken bak platespilleren var å få en viss balanse kvalitetsmessig kontre cd og dac , allså omtrent like mye penger til begge kilder, iom jeg sånn ca bruker begge deler likt over tid tenker jeg, selv om det nå går mye i vinyl

    er på utkikk etter en noe orginal platebase, tenker å kjøpe meg en i acryl, laget slik jeg vil ha den, har kikket på en type med en lp plate inne i selve acrylen , men problemet her er at den må bestilles i min 10 eksemplarer og det vil koste en del

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    testter forøvrig ut disse om dagen under rørpre og cd spilelr og de hjelper mot vibrasjoner, det er det ingen tvil om imo
    større tydelighet i toppen og mer autoritær bass er det jeg har merket meg sålangt
    disse kan slå ut begge veier men er relativt tydelige, dvs at man merker fort om det er negativt eller positivt, de gjør at utstyret "flyter" mot underlaget, dyre er de heller ikke

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    vurderer utover høsten å forsøke meg litt med diffusjon, er helt ukjent terrirorie for meg, vil slike kunne ha en funksjon på veggen bak utstyret ?



    eventuellt noe slikt i taket



    setter pris på innspill, og ikke minst andre tips, har rockwool plater forøvrig på sidevegg og bakvegg(karnapp)

    andre merker som er rimeligere er også meget interesant ?

    hva med absorberende plater i tak f.eks ?
    har takplater veldig mye å si iom at jeg har horn ht ?

    alle tips blir tatt imot med takk :grin:

    forøvrig kommet over en veldig , veldig god kombo med 12ax7/ecc83 i mc
    2 stk 59 mod bp rca + 2 stk mazda siver anode, disse har en i mine ører
    veldig god synergi sammen og gir en noe euroamerikansk lyd

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    Den SME 300 armen er smykke innen håndverk og bruk av flott mariell
    En serøst lekker vinylrigg!

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    Den SME 300 armen er smykke innen håndverk og bruk av flott mariell
    En serøst lekker vinylrigg!

    Takker så mye for det, og jeg synes selvfølgelig det samme

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    Har hatt meg noen fine vinylkvelder nå, med vask av plater og lytting ikke minst
    har kommet over en god del eldre innspillinger av god kvalitet og det er gøy å sette på the wall fra 1979, og oppdage at platen er så vel tatt vare på at den spiller som ny, er jo masse dynamikk på enkelte av disse innspillingene
    rage against the machine med den selvtitulerte plata er jo knallbra og har en
    sinnsyk dynamisk trykk

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    Har vært heldig og kommet over en del interesange lp plater så vinterlagret er klart som gammel blod fan av bla Kiss, er det artig å ha fått tak i nærmere 20 av platene deres, i førsteutgivelser av god kvalitet
    masse gammel black sabbath,motorhead,wasp,running wild,helloween og ikke minst aerosmith, alt i alt kommet inn ca 575 plater her nå og ca 60-70 maxi/singler, veldig glad for investeringen av platevasker den kommer godt med fremover

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