Multisone video, is it possible and how?

Sponsorer:
Takk Takk:  0
Like Like:  0
Viser resultater 1 til 13 av 13
  1. #1
    Newcomer
    Medlem siden
    Nov 2004
    Poster
    79
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    0 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)

    Multisone video, is it possible and how?

    Hi,

    Hope you don't mind me writing in English... and you can answer in Norwegian.

    I am looking for multisone solution at home and have come accross some posts in this forum, that some of you have done so. One mentioned that he has touchscreen in a kitchen. I imagine that is a way to control HTPC. What kind of screen is good for this, so it is not too small to watch, but still has touchscreen functionality? Can you write a model? also, can one have video in multisone? What kind of video cable would you have to your kitchen touchscreen?.

    My ideal set up would be: HTPC with screen and projector in one room, Dreambox with TV in another room and some screen in a third room with possibility to conect to HTPC, let say kitchen. In a kitchen I would like to be able to start music from HTPC or to view video signal, that would come from Dreambox via HTPC to the screen in a kitchen. In case you wonder why I want that, I think it is nice to prepare breakfast and eat that while watching news...

    I think that would be possible if I put some simple PC in a kitchen, but it is not convenient to start it and wait until XP loads...

    Looking forward to hear from you.

  2. #2
    Active tZar sin avatar
    Medlem siden
    Aug 2003
    Poster
    458
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    0 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    Touchscreen burde ikke bli alt for vanskelig å få tak i. Et søk hos komplett (http://www.komplett.no/k/search.asp?q=touch) viser at de i alle fall har 17" på lager.

    For å distribuere video, så finns det endel løsniger, alt fra Pluto (http://www.plutohome.com) til feks myTheatre (http://dvbcore.org). Hvordan Pluto distribuerer video-strømmene er jeg ikke sikker på, men myTheratre sender vel ut strømmen som multicast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast)

  3. #3
    Intermediate LL sin avatar
    Medlem siden
    Jul 2003
    Poster
    2,900
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    1 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    For multi-sone musikk kan du bruke et program som heter Xlobby. Dette kan du designe oppsettet på selv, slik at det passer akkurat slik du vil ha det. Det eneste du trenger er flere lydkort i PC'en, men med noen Creative (tror jeg) kan du bruke surroundkanalene til multirom (dette forutsetter en annen driver. Husker ikke helt hva den heter).

    Ellers så skal J.River Media Center kombinert med PDA/Netremote være en av de beste og mest fleksible løsningene for multikanals musikk. Mastiff her på forumet er ekspert på dette og har skrevet noen guider om dette på www.hardware.no (Jeg er usikker på om han har kommer til multirom enda, men jeg tror det kommer).

    De rimeligste touchscreen skjermene får du fra USA. Ebay skal være et godt alternativ.

    Jeg vet ikke noe om multirom video. Tror det er litt verre å få til.

  4. #4
    Active tZar sin avatar
    Medlem siden
    Aug 2003
    Poster
    458
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    0 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    Sitat Opprinnelig postet av LL
    men med noen Creative (tror jeg) kan du bruke surroundkanalene til multirom (dette forutsetter en annen driver. Husker ikke helt hva den heter).
    Er vel kanskje kxProject du tenker på? http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/index.php?skip=1

  5. #5
    Intermediate DrErling sin avatar
    Medlem siden
    Oct 2003
    Poster
    4,087
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    0 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    Multisone video skal gå greit å få til. Jeg har ikke 100% oversikten, men en mail til norwegian custom media sollutions (holder til på Høvik i veritasveien tror jeg...)

    www.ncms.no

    Spør dem om råd, og så gjør du et søk på evt produkter de foreslår på ebay. Den lave dollarkursen og den kjappe utbyttingshastigheten amerikanerne har så skal det gå ann å finne billige komponenter der.

    www.leteng.no er også et alternativ. De har ok peiling på videodistribusjon.

    DrE

  6. #6
    Newcomer
    Medlem siden
    Nov 2004
    Poster
    79
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    0 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    Hi, thanks for numerous suggestions.

    Multizone audio is not a problem really. I followed Mastiff's series of articles, built my HTPC based on it. Plan to use Creative card to with KX Project drivers (again, following Mastiffs example):
    http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/index.php?skip=1

    He seems to have also a possibility to watch news in a kitchen. Article 10 says, that Girder fires up PC in a kitchen, that starts morning news at specific time. I understand he has a PC installed somewhere in a kitchen, and Girder wakes it up. Not sure how, however. Is PC in hibernate mode to save the power and eliminate noice? Or is it one of X-10 devices that plugs the power on somehow...? Having a simple PC hidden somewhere in a wall could be an option. What is really needed then is very simple ant straightforward motherboard with some simple video card and audio card. That PC would have XP OS and VLC player to catch stream from dreambox. But my question really is if this is possible to do somehow, without actually installing PC in a kitchen. What are the options then? Puting an extra video card in one of the existing PC's? Haven't seen articles on how would that work and what cable would be used to send video signal (DVI? S-Video?; VGA?) Some of these cables have maximum length allowed that would be another restriction to consider.

    When it comes to Xlobby, my understanding is that it would give my multizone sound solution not video. Please correct if I am wrong. Sound solution I plan to have with Net Remote, KX Project and J.Rivers player.

    Komplete solutions, like Plutohome are usually expensive and difficult to add to already existing network of PC's. I am kind of following Matsiff's approach, to get most of the value for money and be able to customize further later on.

    Tzar, link http://dvbcore.org/ does not open...

    I found one post on this forum where user Tommer said he is using touchscreen in a kitchen. I supposed it is somehow connected to PC in a separate room...:
    http://avforum.no/forum/generell-htpc/26429-htpc-sentral-multisone-video-og-audio.html

    I will spend some time to go through links provided by DrErling.

    Thanks for input

  7. #7
    Active tZar sin avatar
    Medlem siden
    Aug 2003
    Poster
    458
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    0 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    Sitat Opprinnelig postet av ajocius
    Tzar, link http://dvbcore.org/ does not open...
    Det skulle være http://www.dvbcore.com/

  8. #8
    Newcomer
    Medlem siden
    Nov 2004
    Poster
    79
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    0 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    DVBCore seem to be page for MyTheater. MyTheatre is a multimedia application for end user which allows watch Satellite TV and Radio, playback multimedia files (mpg, mp3, DivX and many others) and DVD. I didn't find anything there pointing into multiroom solution. I have Dreambox as satelite receiver and can stream video from it to any PC connected to LAN and having VLC on it. My question is how to get video signal to an LCD in an remote room, whithout installing PC there and how to control PC from that room (touchscreen? USB-UIRT?)

  9. #9
    Intermediate DrErling sin avatar
    Medlem siden
    Oct 2003
    Poster
    4,087
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    0 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    Sitat Opprinnelig postet av ajocius
    That PC would have XP OS and VLC player to catch stream from dreambox. But my question really is if this is possible to do somehow, without actually installing PC in a kitchen. What are the options then? Puting an extra video card in one of the existing PC's? Haven't seen articles on how would that work and what cable would be used to send video signal (DVI? S-Video?; VGA?) Some of these cables have maximum length allowed that would be another restriction to consider.
    Extenders up to 100metres (and more) via CAT5 is available for both DVI, S-video and VGA. Using two RG59 coax cables with BNC-Y/C adapters in each end extends the possible length of a s-video cable (20-25 metres no problem). High quality VGA cables are no problem using up to 20-25metres. DVI is limited to about 10-15metres I think.

    It should not be a problem using several grapchics cards in the pc, but I do not know of the spesific software that makes this a good solution. It certainly would be cheapest using several graphics cards in one pc, rather than having to install a computer in each room...

    btw, the "wakeup" that Mastiff uses, I think is a normal WOL (wake on Lan) sequense?

    DrE

  10. #10
    Active tZar sin avatar
    Medlem siden
    Aug 2003
    Poster
    458
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    0 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    Dreambox sender vel ut en strøm som kan sees på med VLC? I så fall burde det vel ikke være verre enn å legge en lang vga + tastatur/mus-kabel fra HTPC'en og til skjermen på kjøkkenet. Start deretter bare VLC eller et annet program som kan ta i mot strømmen, og du vil få tv'en din ;-)

    Noe annet du kan kikke på er Orb

    Orb takes the home out of home entertainment! Orb gives you secure access to your digital media from your home computer through a simple Web interface. Stream your live TV, photos, music and videos to any Web-enabled device.
    http://www.orb.com/what_is_orb/

  11. #11
    Newcomer
    Medlem siden
    Nov 2004
    Poster
    79
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    0 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    Interesting input on extenders. Does anyone use them? How about quality loss? Of course, I do not need highest quality here, andif the quality loss is notsignificant, that is something to consider.

    As you pointed out, the question remaining is what software to use to get video streams separated. Can two video cards work at the same time and send different video output?

  12. #12
    Intermediate LL sin avatar
    Medlem siden
    Jul 2003
    Poster
    2,900
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    1 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    Sitat Opprinnelig postet av ajocius
    Interesting input on extenders. Does anyone use them? How about quality loss? Of course, I do not need highest quality here, andif the quality loss is notsignificant, that is something to consider.
    I use a Gefen CAT5 extender for digital audio (spdif). I use a 20m TP-cable. The quality is very good. I don't think there is much quility loss (if any) so this is an acceptable solution.

  13. #13
    Newcomer
    Medlem siden
    Nov 2004
    Poster
    79
    Takk & like
    Nevnt
    0 post(er)
    AVtorget feedback
    0
    (0% positive tilbakemeldinger)
    LL, digital audio is using much less of a bandwith than video. I am questioning video quality via extender.

Stikkord for denne tråden

Regler for innlegg

  • Du kan ikke starte nye tråder
  • Du kan ikke svare på innlegg / tråder
  • Du kan ikke laste opp vedlegg
  • Du kan ikke redigere meldingene dine
  •